There’s bad news, and there’s real bad news for Intel if you believe AMD’s tests.

First, the bad news: AMD’s upcoming Ryzen 7 4000-series CPUs can outperform Intel’s Core i9 in multi-threaded tasks. The real bad news? AMD is also announcing two, even more potent Ryzen 9 4000 CPUs today: 

  • The 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen 9 4900HS is rated for a 35-watt TDP, with 12MB of cache. It will feature a base clock of 3GHz and a 4.3GHz boost clock, while its eight 7nm Radeon Vega graphics compute units will run at 1,750MHz.
  • AMD’s fastest mobile chip to date, the 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen 9 4900H will feature a 3.3GHz base clock and a 4.4GHz boost clock at a rated 45 watt TDP. It’s otherwise identical to the HS version of the chip.

That brings AMD’s stable of full-power H-series chips and lower-power HS-series chips to a total of six for the Ryzen 4000 lineup, which you can see below.

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AMD’s Ryzen 4000-series H and HS chips.

At CES, AMD had already crowed that its 8-core Ryzen 7 4800H multi-threaded performance would not only outpace Intel’s 6-core Core i7-9750H in laptops, but also a desktop 8-core Core i7-9700K. We pointed out that it was a bit facetious since the 9750H only packs six cores, while the 8-core 9700K doesn’t support Hyper-Threading. Well, now AMD said its Ryzen 7 4800H will also outperform Intel’s 8-core, 16-thread Core i9-9880H laptop chip.

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AMD’s upcoming 8-core Ryzen 7 4800H will outperform both Intel’s 6-core Core i7-9750H and its 8-core Core i9-9880H, the company said.

And not by a little bit either. AMD said the Ryzen 9 4900HS is 28 percent faster than a Core i9-9880H in Cinebench R20, 23 percent faster in Handbrake encodes, 56 percent faster in Blender, and 32 percent faster in LAME. AMD admitted Intel still has an edge in sometests, however, with the Ryzen 9 having an 8 percent deficit in PCMark 10’s Digital Content Creation test.

The last result was a bit of a surprise, but it’s likely PCMark 10’s Digital Content Creation test—which is a blend of POV-Ray, FFMPEG video editing and ImageMagick photo editing—gives Intel the advantage due to the higher clock speeds on lighter tasks, as well as instruction set optimizations for Intel’s CPUs.

Is this comparison fair? 

The Intel platform that AMD used for the comparison is likely also handcuffed by its form factor. AMD tested an MSI P75 Creator 9SF that features a 17-inch screen, discrete graphics, and the Core i9 chip. It’s also just 5 lbs., relatively thin, and also likely very constrained by thermals. We know from our experience testing numerous Core i9 laptops that the CPU can be extremely limited by the thermal performance of the notebook it’s housed in. A giant Acer Predator Helios 700, for example, easily out performs a Dell XPS 15 7590 even though both have the same CPU.

To that, we suspect AMD would say tough nuggies. Even though the P75 Creator is probably limited by its thermals, the laptop AMD used for its comparison is the upcoming Asus ROG Zephyrus G14, which weighs just 3.5 lbs and includes an Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060. One harsh reality that’s going to hurt Intel’s current Core i9 mobile CPU is you just can’t jam it into a laptop as thin and as light as a Ryzen 4000-based one and include a decently powerful GPU as well.

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